EQUITABLE LIFE MEMBERS

INTERESTING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

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Questions and Answers from the FSA

Questions to the FOS

If Equitable became insolvent what would happen? Financial Services Compensation Scheme will give 100% for the first £2,000 and then 90% for guaranteed sums above that. 

If Equitable went into administration, an independent actuary would be asked to advise the administrator on the amounts guaranteed to policyholders.

If, for example, the actuary thought the group had been too generous in the annual bonuses it had allocated to policyholders, the administrator might reduce those amounts.

So it could be 90% of a lower figure.

If you have a bond, you would be covered for the first £30,000 in full and then 90% of the next £20,000. The maximum amount of compensation is therefore £48,000.

For with profits annuitants, what would happen if Equitable became insolvent?

 

The FSCS, which took over from the Policyholders Protection Board last December, admits no one has yet had a good look at annuities. But in the hypothetical case of a life insurer going bust - no one has yet defaulted - the most likely course is that the liquidator would set out a claim on the FSCS.

The value of the annuity would have to be calculated on the basis of how much it would cost to buy the present income at current age. Then, in all probability the annuitant would receive 100% of the first £2,000 and 90% of the balance of this lump sum. This will not replace the income in its entirety.

Is there a priority to whom will be paid first?

Initially the expenses of the administrator would have to be paid.

 

Next in line are the priority or secured creditors, such as banks, major lenders and mortgage lenders, if any property is mortgaged.

 

Staff are paid - up to a certain level - before ordinary creditors, including policyholders. The FSCS said pensions in payment and new claims are the priority, although the liquidator may take a different view.

As an Annuitant can I transfer to another provider? This was the reply from Equitable Life's specially installed help line.   The chap there says that the Telegraph's saying that it was legal to transfer out of EL into another fund holder cut no ice with them.   "It takes two to make a transfer", he said and Equitable Life are not prepared to be one of them! 

Who owns the Unit Linked Fund Equitable or the Halifax?

 

Although Equitable planned to sell the Unit Linked Fund to the Halifax in 2001, due to complexities of transfers that were allowed between the with profits and unit linked it was decided not to go ahead with it. The Unit Linked is still owned by Equitable and can be seen in the accounts. It is however ring fenced from the With Profits Fund.

The FSA have written: Technically, if Equitable Life became insolvent you would become a creditor of Equitable.  As such, the liquidator of Equitable would be required to deal with any claim your client had in the same way they would deal with a claim from any other creditor.

However, Halifax Life have confirmed that, whatever the legal position of the unit linked funds, if Equitable's with profits fund were ever to become insolvent, Halifax Life would stand behind the unit-linked funds and policies and would be paid in full.

What is happening with the GAR Rectification Scheme set up in 2000? Equitable stated on 31 March 2003 "It became increasingly obvious during 2002 that the original proposals, launched by the Society’s former Board, to compensate holders of GAR policies who retired before the House of Lords’ ruling in 2000, needed to be changed. This review is now well advanced and has revealed that the original scheme is very complex, time-consuming and may not be fair to continuing members. As a result, we have decided to withdraw the current scheme and are now assessing alternative approaches that will speed up and resolve the longstanding need to provide appropriate, fair compensation for eligible policyholders in a sensible time scale. We will send details to those affected as soon as the proposals for the alternative scheme are completed, which will be within the next several months. We are aware that progress has been painfully slow and for that we are very sorry. We recognise that we do have a responsibility to meet the expectations of genuine claimants, but we also have a duty to all continuing policyholders in the fund."
What is the current size of the With Profits Fund and what percentage is in equities. Unlike many other lifecos Equitable has a very small percentage of investment in equities (about 5%).  It is estimated to currently be around 5%.  The size of the fund is estimated at £15bn maximum.
What will I get from my state pension? Complete a BR19 form from the Department for Work and Pensions (www.dwp.gov.uk), which will give you a pension forecast and show how to remedy gaps in NICs.

Why is Equitable Life different?

 

Equitable Life is a 239-year old mutual life assurance society. Mutual means that it is owned by members and has no outside shareholders. The members have with profits policies, which means that they have a stake in the profits of the company, which are paid out from reserves. These with-profits policies are a way of smoothing the return on a life insurance plan because the company keeps back some of the profits in good years to top them up in bad ones.
What caused the problems? In the 1970s and 1980s Equitable Life sold about 90,000 policies with a guaranteed annuity rate (GAR).  Annuities are investments that produce guaranteed lifetime incomes. People with personal pensions must use most of the pensions pot they have accumulated to buy an annuity once they reach the age of 75. Annuity rates are based on long-term gilt rates. Towards the end of the 1980s gilt rates were high so Equitable’s guarantee of 10% was, then, reasonable. However, in the last 10 years interest rates, and particularly long-term interest rates on gilts have fallen. Ten-year gilts now yield only 5% and 30-year gilts yield 4.5%.

Thus, Equitable was expected to pay the difference between what it guaranteed and what was available. But, because it could not predict the lifespan of its policyholders or future interest rates, the problem became unresolvable.

The lower interest rates went, the bigger the expense for the Equitable. It has revealed that the cost of the GARs has been rising by £200m for every 0.5% drop in interest rates.

For anything below 8.5% the Equitable was expected to find the extra funds. Added to this is the fact that the Equitable has honoured its promises to investors with the result that it has smaller reserves than other insurers.

What was Equitable's first suggested remedy? To cut costs by reducing bonuses on GARs, arguing that non-GAR policyholders' bonuses would be cut if GAR bonuses were paid out. However, this would have meant GAR policyholders would have earned lower bonuses than other Equitable policyholders.

The Guaranteed Annuity Rate Action Group was made up of policyholders formed in 1998 and took the Equitable to court after it refused to pay these terminal bonuses. A High Court judgement in 1999 backed the Equitable’s stance. But, the Court of Appeal in January 2000 ruled against Equitable's proposed solution and in June, the House of Lords ruled that the company must honour the guarantees of income made when the 90,000 customers took out their policies.

After losing the court case the Equitable decided to put itself up for sale, in order to get money to rescue the GARs. The Prudential toyed with the idea of buying it but pulled out, claiming it was not in the interests of its shareholders or policyholders. The Halifax has however made a deal to buy the workforce and the systems but not the with-profit fund as yet. If it does decide to buy the GARs, it will cost it £250m.

What was the compromise scheme? The compromise deal that Equitable Life put forward and which was sanctioned by the High Court, said that GAR policyholders must give up their right to guaranteed rates in exchange for an uplift in their policy of around 17.5%.

In January 2002 Equitable policyholders approved the compromise scheme to end the society's liability to its guaranteed annuity rate policyholders (GARs). Equitable needed the support of 75% by value of all policyholders who voted and 50% by number. Each proposal was passed by majorities of between 97.3% and 99.2%. The scheme became binding on 8 February 2002 and GAR policyholders should have been written to regarding the payment of the uplift in their policies.

Do I still have a claim for mis-selling?
If you still have an Equitable Life with-profits policy, any outstanding potential mis-selling claims in relation to the GAR costs have probably been settled under the scheme.

If your policy was cancelled before that date, so you were no longer a with-profits policyholder on the effective date, any potential claim you might have has not been affected by the scheme. The Society has now received the B&W Deloitte report which says that there was mis-selling and will be setting up a S425 Compromise scheme for those who terminated policies between 20 July 2001 and 8 Feb 2002. This should be available later in the year and should come into place 2003.

It's a Dog's Life Henry

with thanks to Kevin Moorehouse