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Title: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 23, 2016, 09:18:08 AM
Two lorries have arrived this morning, parked near the two chicken sheds. Wonder what he's up to now?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on June 23, 2016, 12:22:57 PM
any sign of livestock ?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Gazzetta on June 23, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
Plucking hell


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 23, 2016, 12:48:43 PM
I didn't see any livestock.  The lorries were the sort with open backs, not flat beds exactly but not closed in either - I forget what they're called though :(  One of the chicken sheds did have it's doors open though but I couldn't guess from where I was as to what was going on. 


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 23, 2016, 02:18:50 PM
And so it goes on and on and on. Someone should tell him to emigrate - quickly. Willwe never be free of him


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 23, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
I feel your pain Monty.  You would have hoped by now that he might just have taken on board the facts of the situation, i.e. that he has bought somewhere totally unsuitable and also that no-one wants a bloomin chicken farm on their doorsteps.  Quite honestly there must be something wrong with the bloke.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 23, 2016, 03:51:16 PM
Because he is such a pratt I am sure we will wake up one morning to the clatter of chickens, He has no respect for the law or the council decision :-\


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Dragonman on June 23, 2016, 05:21:24 PM
Vote leave, and then he won't  get help from Brussels!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 23, 2016, 05:22:19 PM
He has installed more chicken housing, like the two previous ones.

Shame he's not there now to see the waterlogging; though I doubt even that would register as bad for chickens.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 23, 2016, 05:45:14 PM
Are going to email RBWM and inform them at what he is doing, I think we need to do that Paris


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 23, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
First thing tomorrow morning Monty. I urge anyone else concerned about this to also get in touch with the planning office.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 23, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
I certainly will. He has got to be stopped


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on June 23, 2016, 10:03:57 PM
I understand that the enforcement team from RBWM are visiting the site tomorrow morning to assess the buildings on site.
This is an extremely frustrating situation.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 23, 2016, 10:17:46 PM
I have emailed the planning office this evening about this situation we have got to stop him ruining that field, he has been refused permission he has to accept it


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 24, 2016, 10:09:32 AM
I have emailed this morning as promised.

None of those buildings look particularly mobile to me, they all look rather permanent, especially as they were built where they now stand.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on June 25, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
Update - the RBWM enforcement team have made a site visit and are fully investigating.  Decision awaited!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 25, 2016, 01:28:21 PM
Are you sure nothing has been delivered today, he was standing at the corner of StrandeLane ar about 11.15 seemed to be waiting for something. This is all soo frustrating. I have a bad feeling about this.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 27, 2016, 10:37:45 AM
I hope they decide that these sheds are just as unlawful as the huge one that was denied.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 27, 2016, 10:59:07 AM
I wonder if they will tell him to clear the sheds and a that awful fencing.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 27, 2016, 03:12:12 PM
I do hope so.  This silly situation has gone on long enough.  It's about time someone, somewhere put their foot down and stopped all of this messing around.  Its a big waste of everyone's time, effort and money fighting off an individual who so clearly has very little clue about the property that he owns, let alone keeping any sort of livestock. 


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Dragonman on June 27, 2016, 08:14:37 PM
If he is told to get out by the Council. Will he go to Brussels to get it overturned, as they have done in many cases already. This is why we want our own laws back!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 30, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
He was there last night with the fencing contractor, who I think also arranged for the field to be topped recently - wonder what's going to happen next?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 30, 2016, 10:57:02 AM
What is the council doing about this situation, it is all getting very tedious not knowing whats happening.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on June 30, 2016, 02:51:59 PM
I'd like to know as well, last week I emailed RBWM and CPC - I've only had an answer about the footpath questions, nothing from planning or CPC.  Only automated 'we've got your message' type response so far.  It would be nice to just hear officially that they are looking into what is going on, thank goodness jcleach is willing to share information on here, otherwise we'd know nothing.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 30, 2016, 03:26:59 PM
There is an article on the Cookham page in the Maidenhead Advertiser re this problem. Why dont the council just put him off or do they not have the guts to do it. There must be something that can be done about him, I have a bad feeling about this he will put those chickens in there and then where will we be. If the council don't make him move with the sheds on there I think they will have a hell of a job shifting him with chickens in situ. I wish the field would flood, not convenient I know, but it might move him.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on June 30, 2016, 09:15:15 PM
I have heard that young deer are being caught in his fencing, how true this is I don't know but  it is worrying


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 01, 2016, 12:04:15 PM
This morning he is having grass and turf dug out of his gateway.  Looks like preparation for a hard standing.  I've emailed Susan Sharman again and CPC.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: The Baglady on July 01, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
Saw the digger in there this morning , will this man never give up !!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 01, 2016, 01:02:25 PM
RBWM again doing nothing don't they realise if he gets them damn chickens in there it will cost a lot of money to take him to court. He has no intention of shifting, something has to be done.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 01, 2016, 01:07:27 PM
Jennifer Jackson head of planning is aware of what is going on. She is liaising with the enforcement team.

The update yesterday was that the official process
For enforcement was started which involves 21 days of investigation.

My feeling is the official wheels are turning. They are slow but determined. I can only see the Mr Driver's current actions may even help our case as concerned residents.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 01, 2016, 01:20:18 PM
21 days that is ridiculous that man is breaking the planning law and they are going to discuss it for 21 days, heaven forbid. Those chickens will be in place by the weekend, mark my words. This man is not going to stop till he gets his way he is so ignorant.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: wannabe on July 01, 2016, 02:34:57 PM
It didn't say discuss it said investigate.If the local authority don't follow the rules and use the powers that they have properly any decision they make can be turned over later and possibly compensation paid.
If might be galling and worrying but you have to let those who know what they are doing get on with it.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 01, 2016, 03:00:54 PM
Well they want to get a shift on.for what has  been going on for the best part of a year why do they want 21 days to investigate. There is nothing to investigate he is breaking a planning law, a decision was made  and he has to abide by it, that is it 


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: wannabe on July 01, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
 ::)


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 02, 2016, 07:53:54 AM
From the fact that he's not stopped work since the enforcement team's visit it would look as though he is taking those 21 days as days in which to get as much as possible done and on site with the view that they won't make him take anything away.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 05, 2016, 10:37:50 AM
The council need to get their fingers out, there is even more work going on - he appears to be digging trenches now - right through the roots of the old oak trees that border Strande Lane.  If they don't then this field will be ruined forever, I wonder - are they going to let him get away with this because it is easier than fighting it?

I've also heard a rumour, and I hope that's all it is, that he has ordered his chickens for delivery in early August.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 05, 2016, 01:20:22 PM
Why oh why is this stupid council doing nothing are they stupid or what


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 05, 2016, 01:24:14 PM
Have you emailed Susan Sharma re that rumour Paris, it might be worth it although I think it will take an atom bomb to move that lot


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 05, 2016, 02:32:26 PM
I don't think the council will take too much notice of a rumour, I think harder evidence will be needed.  Besides which I still haven't received any replies to any other of my emails.  Which is why I am starting to think the council are going to let him get away with this. 


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 05, 2016, 02:51:32 PM
I emailed the planning office and just got the standard reply, nothing else. Its very depressing and frustrating that he is carrying on as though he had permission even though  refused twice, perhaps he doesn't speak English or is just ignorant.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: The Baglady on July 05, 2016, 03:31:35 PM
Monty / Paris ,If you can't get a reply from the planning dept is it worth getting the Advertiser / Nationals out to do a feature on his antics ?
Wouldn't look to good in Mrs Mays constituency.
I've tried ringing them on several occasions in the last couple of days to and no replies.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Bob on July 05, 2016, 03:37:22 PM
 
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The council need to get their fingers out, there is even more work going on - he appears to be digging trenches now - right through the roots of the old oak trees that border Strande Lane.  If they don't then this field will be ruined forever, I wonder - are they going to let him get away with this because it is easier than fighting it?

Paris, if that's the case, you could ring the Arboricultural dept. at RBWM to get this stopped immediately. I have found them helpful (although you may need to make sure that you speak to the manager in charge) and they usually act fairly quickly.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 05, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
Fellow chicken fighters,
I spoke to Mr Driver this morning and asked him directly what his plans are and when he plans to bring livestock onto the land.  He didn't answer clearly at all.

I have spoken to the reporter at the Advertiser and I have also e-mailed Mrs May's office.  What we need is the Environment Agency to come down clearly in terms of their opinion on development or non-development (legal definition that Mr Driver is relying on).  His work is clearly going to have an impact on the ability of the field to absorb flood water as well as its displacement.  They have so far not responded to the council's request for an opinion.  I have also contacted them by voicemail and e-mail and had no reply.

Lobbying the EA and Theresa May could well help us here - please do contact them stating the urgency of the situation - there is now a port-a-loo on site. 


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Explorer on July 05, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
My worry is that if we lobby Mrs May on this issue again and again she may look disdainfully upon the villages in the future, perceiving that we are trying to strong arm her during her campaign to be PM.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 05, 2016, 06:43:50 PM
Mrs May is our MP she should be looking out for us with this problem with Mr Driver. If she doesn't do it who will


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 06, 2016, 12:52:04 PM
It all sounds so hopeless, if no-one is answering emails, phone calls, etc then how on earth are we going to get anything done?  They may well be getting sick of hearing about it, and just not answering, but that is no help at all, their inability, unwillingness or whatever to listen and hear what is going on is just leading to stress and worry for those who are going to be immediately impacted by all that is currently happening.  If you can't get an answer jcleach when you have been so successful up until now, what chance does anyone else stand.  Normally I would agree with lobby Mrs May, but I very much fear her mind is on other matters right now, even if she is our MP. 

Sorry everyone for such a negative post, I can see this slipping away from us now though and before we know it the chickens will be installed and the fight will be even harder.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 06, 2016, 01:05:38 PM
What a hopeless load of councillors we have got. Its all so depressing and he is laughing his socks off a us an continuing to get ready for his b.... y chickens.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 06, 2016, 05:54:16 PM
Good news.

RBWM would consider any hardstanding a breech of planning law. They can't enforce without hardstanding. It sounds as though they won't be slowing any poultry sheds but mechanism to be employed currently not known.

Theresa May is fully informed and is helping to ensure the Environment Agency liaise
With the council.


I think we are getting somewhere!



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 06, 2016, 06:08:52 PM
Thank God. I did have a response from RBWM to my email just the normal - we have received - email but at least it was read with a bit of luck.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 07, 2016, 10:15:42 AM
Good news.

RBWM would consider any hardstanding a breech of planning law. They can't enforce without hardstanding. It sounds as though they won't be slowing any poultry sheds but mechanism to be employed currently not known.

Theresa May is fully informed and is helping to ensure the Environment Agency liaise
With the council.


I think we are getting somewhere!  You're doing a great job jcleach, you seem to be reaching places the rest of us are struggling to.



I sincerely hope we are getting somewhere - he's making a right mess digging away at the field, looks like it is for a hardstanding of some kind.  


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 07, 2016, 10:50:14 AM
Stables? Stables would be better than Chickens / Caravans. Especially with Hollands Farm / Woodlands Farm / Cannon Court Farm / Lee Farm (?) and that other Farm up in the Dean all going forward for housing!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on July 07, 2016, 11:54:42 AM
Caravans??
Ouch!

For a caravan park ?
Or somewhere to house travellers?

From what I've gleaned about this individual, I wouldn't put anything past him!
An 'entrepreneur' (in the loosest possible sense of the word) ... devoid of any constructive ideas!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 07, 2016, 12:39:21 PM
I wonder if 'Time Team' with Tony Robinson will turn up... as he has scrapped back enough turf and top soil for the foundations of a Castle !

It makes me nervous that this person could be getting ready to place hard core down... for Caravans to park up?

RBWM need to go down to the site, confirm that whatever this land owner is doing, is lawful, and then reassure the residents.

Where are the CLLRS? Good chance for them to give themselves a high profile!



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 08, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
He's also left the gate unlocked overnight . . . . no need therefore for any lawbreaking if a certain element of the community decide to rock up.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 08, 2016, 10:24:38 AM
Do you think he is sleeping in that shed, and does anyone know what our illustrious council are doing about this.I see from the Advertiser they have allowed the travellers to stay at Shurlock Row what chance have we got to get rid of this little git.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 08, 2016, 11:48:34 AM
Reading that the gate was left UNLOCKED makes me very suspicious that he's intentionally inviting people with caravans to rock-up.... wasn't this a previous threat?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 08, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
Oh God that's all we need meanwhile the council sit on their hands - what  SHOWER ???


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 09, 2016, 12:20:59 PM
Why is there a sneaky ditch being dug? Is this to act as a soak away? . .

If you walk from the Gate in Strande Lane . . on the footpath . . look to the right . . what is the sink hole for?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Dragonman on July 09, 2016, 02:24:56 PM
Maybe he is having a breed of chicken with web feet, and the hole will be filled with water so they can learn to swim before the area floods!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 09, 2016, 02:34:38 PM
I know it 'summer' but I wish we could have a 2014 flood that would floor him completely, he would be swimming round the field rescuing chickens. Sorry people it is not a laughing matter and I wish the council would do something about  him, but I feel he will move these birds in and the council will just accept that they are there and we will have to live with the smell, the noise of his fans. If any of the councillors lived here they would move themselves, it is a case of out of sight out of mind. Sorry to be so negative but I feel we are losing this fight and he is winning big time.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 09, 2016, 07:50:47 PM
Just to say, the gate is locked . . I  ::) see a small padlock on the gate. . . so at least its locked from any caravans on the look out


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 09, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
Good on you Ralph we need to be vigilant with this slipperly article


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 12, 2016, 12:48:19 PM
Dumper truck was removed this morning.  Do we think that could be the beginning of the end? I can't see our man shovelling hardcore or road scalpings or whatever he's making his hardstanding with from by hand!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 12, 2016, 01:32:56 PM
Oh Paris I hope so, this has gone on long enough it time he packed up his bits and disappeared


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 13, 2016, 12:19:25 PM
Sorry to disappoint you Monty, a new digger arrived this morning and work has recommenced. 

Come on RBWM when are you going to get this sorted.  By the time you get round to doing anything the chickens will be there.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 13, 2016, 01:25:35 PM
I want to know why RBWM are not doing anything, is it because they can't be bothered, out of sight out of mind, if those chose chickens arrive and I am sure they will this council and the Parish Council should be ashamed of themselves. All of us living so close to this problem are the ones who are going to suffer
We pay  council tax and we should get a better service than this.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 13, 2016, 02:50:02 PM
Is there. No one 'higher' like an ombudsman that RBWM can be reported to, for NOT carrying out enforcement action against this applicant/land owner?

I thought his business application had been rejected, and now he's altering the land levels, which could create flooding issues in the future to those houses I see in the Strande Lane.  If his actions of altering the land levels cause an added issue of flooding, AND the council was made aware . . can these home owners then sue the land owner AND the council?

I'm aware residents in Marlow got compensation when a storm drain did not do it's job, and they successfully sued the council for compensation for being affected by the floods.

Something to consider?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 13, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
I have just sent another email to RBWM Planning Office about Mr Driver and what he is doing in that field. As you say Ralph what he is doing is altering the levels of the field it will be very serious if we get another flood. When the Enforcement Team went out they  said they would report in 21 days, what's that all about. He is breaking the law, planning was refused twice, I just give up 


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Explorer on July 13, 2016, 03:45:27 PM
The levels actually haven't changed because the same amount of soil is there as it as only been taken out and placed in a different part of the field. As such the ability of the field to act as a flood plain is the same. I know I'm playing devils advocate here but with people jokingly wishing for another flood, I felt we needed some reassurance that our homes risk of flooding is still the same regardless of what Mr Driver has done.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 13, 2016, 07:06:14 PM
Umm I beg to differ . . Less mass to sponge up the wet! . . And when hard standing goes down . .how will it drain off then?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 14, 2016, 04:47:20 PM
Explorer - the levels have changed.  The water table in that part of Cookham is quite high, naturally because of the soils and artificially because of beneath ground works carried out when the Maidenhead flood bund was installed to protect the northern estates of Maidenhead.  By taking off the top layer he is lessening the amount of soil that the water needs to permeate through before appearing above ground level.  Not all flooding is caused by surface water, in the case of the Strande Lane area a good portion of the recent flooding has been caused by groundwater rising to the surface.  This was clearly seen by several of the locals in low lying areas of the fields during the last flood events.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 14, 2016, 05:12:41 PM
I emailed a complaint to the Planning Department again about Mr Driver and his workings.I had a reply today saying they had sent it to the Planning Enforcement Team, whether anything happens I won't hold my breath but we have to keep trying to keep it in front of the council so they can see how unhappy we are at this situation.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 15, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
Well done Monty.  I see that he is making trenches to those so called mobile sheds that are on site.  They can't be very mobile if there are dedicated services being routed to them.  I'm going to email that little gem and see what falls out of it.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 15, 2016, 01:58:00 PM
Paris  Surely there is no water or electric supply to the field, so how is he going give chickens water. As  James Hatch says the you don't have dig far down to hit water, he has made such a mess of that field its heartbreaking.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 15, 2016, 06:36:55 PM
As I understand it, he has been in contact with both water and electricity suppliers.  If his chickens really are on order for delivery in at the beginning of August it would explain why the sudden earthworks, especially as one trench heads straight for an electricity pylon (although whether or not that one is still functional I'm not sure, not all of them are anymore).  Presumably he'd have checked first though wouldn't he - like he would have checked to see if a field in a flood zone could support a free range egg business?  Oh, sorry stupid question  ;)


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: James Hatch on July 15, 2016, 08:56:31 PM
It seems that land owners and councilors do not have the common sense of our forefathers while making the best use of the land, all they can think of is their bank balance, and that won't last for ever.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 15, 2016, 11:59:20 PM
I am so unhappy that is happening there and the council are doing nothing to remove him


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 16, 2016, 08:07:15 PM
We are expecting a decision with regard to enforcement this Tuesday as that will mark the end of the 21
Day
Consultation period.
As far the planning department are concerned electricity and water supply within the field... And a certain amount of hard standing is allowed under permitted development rights.

We await the decision on Tuesday with great interest.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 17, 2016, 11:56:40 AM
Thanks for info Jdleach but I feel we have lost the war and the council really don't care a s....


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 17, 2016, 02:54:13 PM
Do you think he is putting had stands down to accommodate travellers vans as well as chickens ???


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 18, 2016, 10:24:48 AM
Hate to say it Monty, but I agree with you.  I think the council are going to take the easy way out and let him do whatever.  I very much hope they prove me wrong, but I've a nasty feeling about all of this, and the shame of it will be that when the next flood comes the chickens will be the ones to lose their lives and everyone around will have the vermin, noise and smell to deal with on a daily basis while the planners sit tight in their ivory towers and say nothing could have been done to prevent it.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 18, 2016, 10:27:36 AM
 :'(Did you get Andy Silvers email, I think it sounded a bit positive but I am not getting my hopes up


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 18, 2016, 12:02:30 PM
What did the email say ?

You know - IF this was anyone extending there house - without permission, the RBWM would be prosecuting....

This guy..... nothing.


Therefore... I'm going to buy a plot of land and start building flats......



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 18, 2016, 12:06:39 PM
Hi Monty,  No, I didn't get the email, I'm not on that circulation list.

Update from this morning though - he's had a massive green shipping container type thing delivered.  It's huge and damage has been done to the hedgerows along Strande Lane because of the trouble he had getting it in, so far too big for the site.  I wonder if he has permission for this as it is definitely not mobile and will definitely have an impact in terms of flood, it's not going to float, it's not on stilts and is therefore going to send water around it (hopefully inside it as well grrrr) and I can't possibly see that it can be permissable.  I understand that the enforcement officers are being informed, with ample photographic evidence provided too.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 18, 2016, 12:12:53 PM
I cannot believe its got this far and nothing done. Andy's email said he has been served with some sort of enforcement notice but he is just ignoring it. Who is funding him in this venture, obviously someone with more money then sense. I really think our council is useless I absolutely despair, I said those bloody chickens will be in before the end of the month wait and see.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 18, 2016, 12:30:54 PM
The enforcement team should be on site with the police to stop this before it goes any further, Just think of the stink in the hot weather from those birds doesn't bare thinking about


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 18, 2016, 01:50:28 PM
If he's had an enforcement notice then he's even more of an idiot than I thought if he's carrying on regardless.  Does he really think that with the amount of opposition there is to his farm that he is going to get away with it just by bunging more and more stuff on the site?  He's certainly doing himself no favours by causing damage to the lane and the hedges. 

Interesting article in the Advertiser this week by the way, I hope that plenty of people who originally objected and thought it had all gone away have seen it and are now taking more of an interest.  I did notice a few extra people at the weekend looking at the field, and some of those were people I've not seen before.

Just a thought - I think the 'new' footpath may be being opened up today as well - that wouldn't have anything to do with the enforcement notice would it?

Also, taking an interest however in the last week were a certain portion of the community that we would all dread seeing there.  I was approached by one of them, he seemed reasonable and pleasant enough, but that doesn't mean I want he and his family camping on the doorstep.  I think he was more interested though in what he might be able to get for a good price rather than camp site hunting, but you never can totally tell.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 18, 2016, 02:20:46 PM
Paris it was a Planning Contravention Notice that was served which is precursor to the council putting in enforcement. Ha ha


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 18, 2016, 02:44:02 PM
That's good news, but upon doing a bit a googling a solicitors website I saw implied that he now has another 21 days of mucking about while he responds to the notice.  By then the chickens will be there :(  I expect he'll get that surveyor of his to come up with words while he carries on messing up the countryside all in the hope that things will go his obtuse way.  Although that container thing that arrived this morning must be contrary to something, as must running dedicated services to supposedly mobile buildings - how that works I have no idea, will he dig a new trench every time the buildings move - oh no, scuse me of course those buildings aren't going to be moved - in the same way that the shed was supposed to move and then didn't. 


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 18, 2016, 02:59:34 PM
I cannot understand why we all having to go through this he was REFUSED PERMISSION  twice should be end of story. Why is this council so ineffective, too many procedures and not enough action


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 18, 2016, 03:34:17 PM

Who are the CLLrs - IM NOT VOTING FOR THEM EVER ! ...... and they get paid for being a Cllr ! useless...

If the chickens arrive - you've got to feel sorry for them ....  this person has no respect for authority, what respect will there be towards the livestock - poor animal husbandry.





Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: wannabe on July 18, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Its nothing to do with councillors. They turned it Down. Twice. Council officers are dealing with it.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on July 18, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
As with Pontius Pilate, fetch the bowl of water for the Councillors.
Wash their hands off the matter.
Their decision has been taken.
They no longer have any interest in the matter.

Like hell they don't.
They might have voted.
TWICE even!
But this does not mean that they turn a blind eye to the matter, not does it mean that they cannot attend the site
or better still, perhaps expedite their "officers" into pulling their finger out.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 19, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
EXACTLY !

The CLLrs were voted in to be the VOICE of the RESIDENTS.... and WHAT REPRESENTSATION HAVE THEY DONE? BONE IDLE IDIOTS !

The CLLRS SHOULD BE ON THIS!

RBWM SHOULD BE ON THIS !

We are ALL Council TAX Payers.... and I would expect my money / OUR MONEY to now be WORKING FOR US - with those CLLRS to DO the J O B they were put in POSITION TO DO....

This is NOT good enough to LEAVE RESIDENTS to FIGHT this ALONE.

I HAVE NO RESPECT for the CLLRS.... NOR RBWN Enforcement team....  but then... DID I REALLY Expect to see these people ACTION anything.

NOPE.



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 19, 2016, 08:44:32 PM
We understand another enforcement visit would be undertaken today. Result not known.

Very positively I now know that the EA are fully engaged with the situation and will be getting back to the no chickens group, we believe by the end of the week.

I would urge all concerned parties to ensure they are on the no chickens mailing list.



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 19, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
Now why could the Cllrs or RBWM not of sent out communication, or reassurances' that they are aware of the situation. Being mute does not pacify peoples concerns.

Very badly handled! , but then I'm more accustomed to JL customer service!



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 19, 2016, 10:41:12 PM
The whole bloody thing is a nightmare and we do not seem to be getting anywhere to get shot of him,


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 20, 2016, 09:12:56 AM
I saw some official looking gentlemen there this morning - don't know who they were though.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 20, 2016, 08:51:27 PM
Any developments today on this field, the equipment he has down there is worrying Is anybody doing anything about this man and his apparent lack of respect for decisions made


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 20, 2016, 09:25:21 PM
It has been confirmed by the head of planning that they see no breach of planning regulations for the three timber poultry buildings deeming them to be temporary and moveable. They also see it as legal that up to 450 m sq hard standing can be laid.

They are investigating further the enormous polytunnel
Installed today.

The extent to which the EA are involved is not clear yet.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 20, 2016, 09:56:25 PM
so we have lost and he has won and we have to put up with theses bloody chickens. Whye was planning refused when they are allowing him to go forward with this. its crazy stupid and against our human rights to have to live with his bloody farm. Has this council got no guts to stand by their planning refusal obviously not. Why are we paying council tax to a council that doesn't protect out rights against this man who does not even live in the borough.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 21, 2016, 09:59:11 AM
How on earth can those three sheds be temporary and moveable when they have services directly running to them?  Laid in a somewhat permanent way, i.e underground.  Those sheds aren't going anywhere.  Honestly, I'm starting to wonder whether there is something going on behind the scenes that none of us know about.  I realise I have to be careful about saying that, but most other people would have been told to take a hike by now if they wanted to put something like this in a flood plain even battle hardened developers have a struggle on flood plain yet this guy is waltzing around doing what he pleases and taking no notice at all of the reason why he was first refused permission.  If looks like our only hope now is for the EA to stamp down on this.  OK - so he has a right to farm the land, but surely that has to be in a suitable manner?  There are more than planning considerations to be thought about here, when the next flood happens there will be the mother of all animal welfare incidents - I just hope he and RBWM have a good publicist because it's going to take an awful lot of spin to make the situation look like a good one.  In fact given the amount of vermin and nuisance the place is going to cause they're probably going to need that publicist a lot sooner than they thought.

BTW - I hear that our 'friend' is getting a more than a little nasty with anyone going along to take a look, so please be careful.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 21, 2016, 10:05:14 AM
If he is like that surely the police should be involved. I cannot understand why these enforcement officers are not enforcing. How I wish I would end and he high tailed it back to Reading


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on July 21, 2016, 12:37:56 PM
It has been confirmed by the head of planning that they see no breach of planning regulations for the three timber poultry buildings deeming them to be temporary and moveable. They also see it as legal that up to 450 m sq hard standing can be laid.

They are investigating further the enormous polytunnel
Installed today.

The extent to which the EA are involved is not clear yet.

This decision beggars belief!
Planning permission was denied by a vote by the Councillors following a meeting on the issue in the RBWM chambers.
Yet now the Head of Planning clearly overrules this decision by confirming that there is no breach of planning regulations!

How the hell is that possible?!
The Councillors say NO, the Head of Planning says YES ... the man from Delmonte say "Okay" !!!!
Is this an example of the tail wagging the dog?
How on earth can 3,500 poultry be accommodated in a field which knowingly has a high risk of flooding.
Is the RBWM that bloody scared of declaring this miscreant out of order and putting a stop to all his shenanigans?

The mind certainly boggles ... I suspect grease, palms and the ability to be opaque of all being involved...

As the Pythons so aptly put it ........... Nod, nod, wink wink ... know what I mean ... know what I mean?!


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on July 21, 2016, 01:29:49 PM
Perhaps I'm jumping the gun and the RBWM councillors have NOT, as yet, voted on the legality of this project.

In that case, my apologies ... however, the stupidity of it all still stands.

How the hell can a landowner put down, temporary or otherwise, pens to accommodate 3,500 poultry on a field
that is in a  High Risk Flooding area ... a project that that will attract and encourage vermin ... that will, in its confines,
be a health hazard to those persons living in its vicinity....

Any answers from the RBWM Planners?


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 21, 2016, 03:56:07 PM
OK, so maybe no rules have been broken - but even so doesn't common sense weigh into this at all?  Besides which what is the point of having a planning control panel if the Head of Planning can just overrule any decision made?  RBWM have made a big mistake this time around, and no that is not any kind of a threat - it's just that they have that's all.  Putting the wants of the one person against the facts of the flood zone, ecology, pollution, nuisance against the basic human right of residents to have a harmonious and pleasant life.  Many people have worked very hard over their lives to be able to afford houses close by that field and this person is ruining all of that.  The stress and worry he is causing is beyond a joke - as is the planning department.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 21, 2016, 04:43:22 PM
He is not going to stop now while the council and planning are debating the polytunnel those chickens will be in. I am appalled at the way this council has acted I will make sure \I do not vote in future. There is no one to rely on and we are the one who will have to put up with the flies, the smell and the vermin. The Parish Council meeting was cancelled on Tuesday and this matter was going to be discussed I believe. So where does that leave us - precisely NOWHERE.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 21, 2016, 06:35:35 PM
Why and when did the large NO CHICKENS sing disappear rom the wall at beginning of lightlands lane


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 21, 2016, 09:52:47 PM
Good news! Enforcement notice issued on the polytunnel.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 21, 2016, 10:10:02 PM
Do you really think that will stop him the man is an idiot he doesn't listen to notices to stop him. I absolutely despair in this he will continue whatever


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 22, 2016, 07:53:10 AM
Someone needs to request a Freedom Of Information (FOI) to the council, in regards to all correspondence to do with this site. With FOI's if you don't list what you want to see, don't think they will offer it up. It would be interesting to see 'who' has had their mucky fingers over this .........

I would also ask to see the CV's of those at RBWM and see if they have the experience to deal with these agricultural sites... because so far, their decisions have ripped 'Cookham' to shreds (i.e all these farms popping up / developed/ etc).

One thing for certain is, this whole situation has not been handled at all well. RBWM and the Cllrs should have been in correspondence with all involved, rather than treating the residents as 'complainers'.... RBWM employees should be sent on a JL 'customer service' course.... and not allowed to become FAT and LAZY... with a 'don't care' attitude. They need to be reminded that they are in those positions to support the borough residents, and at least have  / show some empathy.

What's that saying.... 'don't bite the hand that feeds you' - to which the Cllrs and RBWM have just done that!


Lastly - FILE THAT ARTICLE 4 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 22, 2016, 09:26:21 AM
Well said Ralph.

The enforcement notice doesn't come into effect until 25 August he has 14 days after that to remove it. It'll be full of chickens by then, he's carrying on putting it together as I type :( that notice has been issued so he can get away with it as he has done with the other three sheds, fat lot of use that contravention notice was; and he's being allowed that hideous green metal box as well.  That enforcement notice should have been in effect from today, with 14 days to be rid of the polytunnel; he was told at the last planning meeting that he couldn't have it and yet there is it right in front of our eyes.  The planning office is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard in this instance.  There must be some back room shenanigans going on surely it can't be right that the planning office are accepting those sheds and temporary and moveable when it is pretty obvious from the work being done that there is no intention of them ever being moved.  This whole business absolutely STINKS (like the chickens will); especially since it would appear that the planning enforcement people are now poking their noses into other people's perfectly legitimate business all thanks to a certain person with an extremely large chip on his shoulder.



Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 22, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
I think there is a bit of back scratching going on and as you say Paris by 25th August those chickens will have been in place a month, the council are not interested in doing anything, they do NOT have our interests at heart at all, we are just not important even though we pay their large wages. I am disgusted at the way we are being treated and they have not got the guts to tell this little scrout from Reading to GO away.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 22, 2016, 01:52:07 PM
If only that Article 4 had been put on that field, I don't suppose the council will be interested in making an emergency application.  I've heard through the grapevine that it wasn't applied for because of the affect it might have on others in the area - so what? If what they want to do is above board and squeaky clean no problem surely?  If not well then I think we all deserve a bit of protection from them as well as idiots setting up chicken farms.  Article 4 would have put a stop to a lot of these silly goings on, if not all of them, once and for all.  The Parish Council have done a great many people a great deal of harm by not pursuing it to start with and RBWM could have taken up the mantle too and driven it forwards.  I think more than a few of them can look forward to not being re-elected when the time comes.  Although there will of course need to be a fair few alternatives to vote for, and I reckon quite few people on this board could make a pretty good job of it, they seem to hold the interests of the Cookhams far closer to their hearts than the current bunch of councillors.  They are allowing our beautiful place to live, work, rest and play in to be destroyed by a lot of get rich quick merchants.

Big thanks to the Maidenhead Advertiser by the way - the online version is already carrying the story of the enforcement notice.  This is just what we need to make sure that others around the site who maybe don't see it everyday are aware that the chickens are on their way despite all the refusals handed out by the planning team originally.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: wannabe on July 24, 2016, 11:59:22 AM
You will notice that those in the community who are VERY affected by this issue and are actually dealing with RBWM and Parish Council and officers are well aware of the hard work and support that is being put in by them are not jopining in with the comments here. I doubt they (the "officials" take much if any notice of the rantings and language on here but if they do don't be surprised if they lose heart and start to give minimal service. Some of the comments are sailing very close to the wind and are of no help at all in dealing with this.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on July 24, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
So gathering from your comments above, in your opinion,  "MONTY" (who clearly lives in the vicinity of the chicken haven and thus VERY
affected by this issue) is creating far too much of a fuss for your liking?!!

Really?!

Watch your rantings, monty!! Big Brother is monitoring you!

So let me get this right, with all these rantings taking place and sailing so close to the wind, you believe the RBWM councillors and
officers would lose heart (I thought they didn't take any notice of comments on here, so make your mind up!) and
thus give a minimal service!
Isn't that contrary to their pledge to serve the community as "best they can" ...

Diddums, we really must watch our comments lest they offend those poor, underpaid and overworked fat cats on the Council.

There, make what you will of that comment !

Fact - The owner of this land is flaunting the law with NOBODY from RBWM lifting a finger to stop him.
          So when the chickens do finally arrive and are housed in those coops, what will your excuses be then, wannabe??


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: wannabe on July 24, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
"NOBODY from RBWM lifting a finger to stop him."
Just isn't true is it? I can see how upset people are. The comments just don't help and some are just downright untrue.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on July 25, 2016, 09:05:19 AM
"NOBODY from RBWM lifting a finger to stop him."
Just isn't true is it? I can see how upset people are. The comments just don't help and some are just downright untrue.

That's where we differ (and I suspect several on and off this board do so as well).

Getting a rocket up their backsides with a continuous hounding of their lackadaisical approach/s is precisely what the RBWM need
to keep them on their toes, lest they huddle together in their firm and pious belief that they are untouchable due to their uncontested
control within the Council Chamber for the next 3 years.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 25, 2016, 12:32:37 PM
The traditionally used footpath through this field is legally recognised from today.
It remains fenced off at present and I have asked the rights of way officer to reconfirmed when we can expect to be able to use it.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: James Hatch on July 25, 2016, 03:58:08 PM
If he has fenced off a known right of way that I have denoted several times on maps that I have posted on my historic postings, he is going to be in trouble.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 25, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
It breaks my heart to see the damage he has done to that field it is so sad.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on July 25, 2016, 06:58:06 PM
There is now an electricity generator in action in the field. We understand this to be temporary as there has been a delay in linking to the national grid.
The planning teams are aware.
If anyone is troubled by the noise please do keep a log of the nuissance. Until we have forms available they can be downloaded:

http://forms.rbwm.gov.uk/popup.aspx/RenderForm/?FName=Halx1_iOYED


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 25, 2016, 07:34:22 PM
if planning teams are aware why are they not doing anything. In five days time there will be 3500 chicken in situ what happens then


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 26, 2016, 10:12:00 AM
You will notice that those in the community who are VERY affected by this issue and are actually dealing with RBWM and Parish Council and officers are well aware of the hard work and support that is being put in by them are not jopining in with the comments here. I doubt they (the "officials" take much if any notice of the rantings and language on here but if they do don't be surprised if they lose heart and start to give minimal service. Some of the comments are sailing very close to the wind and are of no help at all in dealing with this.

a) Wannabe - how do we know they are not joining in - aren't all posts supposed to be anonymous
b) your attitude leaves something to be desired - the idea of a discussion board is that people discuss their feelings, ideas, suggestions, opinions etc.  Your post seems to imply that these are of no consequence
c) there are some people on this thread who have also been working behind the scenes and emailing the councillors, planners and footpath officer, you would seem to prefer that those people stepped back and left only those who you know working on this? surely the more the merrier to get the message across that it is not just a few people who are going to be affected.  You were quite happy to plaster the village in posters when you wanted help from everyone in the form of objections, you can't expect them to go away now it is not convenient, as you see it, to still be making comment.  They would undoubtedly still wish to know what is going on and would presumably still object to the chicken farm yet you imply that only those close to the field should be involved.
d) regardless of what is written on here the council and its officials have a duty to the public, if they are likely to be influenced negatively by seeing things written about them that they don't like then they shouldn't be in office and should find a job more suitable to their sensitive feelings.

arggh - I could rant for ages, I didn't want this thread to become personal like this, it was intended to inform those that aren't on top of the field as it were about what is going on there.  However, as it has now gone that way, and as I am one of those people who have also been in contact with the council and whom it would appear you would prefer to keep out of it, I shall do exactly that - keep out of it from know on.  Well done you've just lost yourself someone who was previously very supportive.  I still believe that what Mr Driver is intending to do is wrong, but this will be my last post and while I never say never it is extremely unlikely that I shall lift one more finger to help.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Ralph on July 26, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
I'm with you on that Paris.

And now I will delete my account.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 26, 2016, 10:43:50 PM
WE cannot let him win it is our lives he is dealing with, the prices on our houses will drop who wants to buy a house looking over a chicken farm


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Paris on July 27, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Watchman, thank you for your post. 

However, I'm standing by what I say. I'm only responding to your post Watchman because it had a lot of validity.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on July 27, 2016, 02:13:44 PM
Watchman, thank you for your post. 

However, I'm standing by what I say. I'm only responding to your post Watchman because it had a lot of validity.

That really is a shame Paris, but I respect your decision.
I have responded to the Webmasters lengthy delivery on the Terms of Usage of Discussion Board .

I too will resign from this Board if circumstances determining the restriction of speech are allowed to prevail and continue.
For the record - I dislike being told what and what not to do purely because a particular author (without justification) deems it so.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Thomas Lee on July 27, 2016, 04:09:41 PM
Folks

I know many of you are excited (and angry) about the chicken farm coming to cookham (or not). But pleae do not get personal. I have removed one post which was reported. If you can't be nice, don't post.#

Thomas


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on July 27, 2016, 09:23:45 PM
This is my last post. Mr Driver has won he has his chicken farm we have the mess and smell


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Thomas Lee on July 27, 2016, 10:25:30 PM
This is my last post. Mr Driver has won he has his chicken farm we have the mess and smell

Your call.

I'd prefer you to stay around and contribute. You can do that without drifting towards personal attacks.

And I do not think Driver has won yet.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on August 01, 2016, 07:45:43 PM
Just for information the food hopper has arrived for the chickens


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: jcleach on August 09, 2016, 10:38:37 AM
The chickens have arrived. They are being placed into a building deemed to be unlawful by our council. The site is 3b flood plain and floods to a metre's depth for 8 weeks at a time.

This is simply wrong.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Watchman on August 09, 2016, 11:05:56 AM
The chickens have arrived.
They are being placed into a building deemed to be unlawful by our council.
The site is 3b flood plain and floods to a metre's depth for 8 weeks at a time.

This is simply wrong
.



And this from Mr Thomas Lee .... the Moderator, at 10:25 pm on 27th July.

Quote
  And I do not think Driver has won yet.

Good call, Mr Lee !!

PS - This is sad and contemptible news .... the Chicken Man has won the day to the detriment of all local residents.

.... despite the chidings of certain forum members on here who urged 'patience' as the Council "had things under control" !

Absolutely laughable.




Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on August 09, 2016, 02:07:15 PM
Now we deal with smell, flies and rats. I am disgusted that it has got this far and nothing has been done, he has just stuck his fingers up to all and we have to put up with it. Its just so distressing this notice on his gate doesn't come into force until 25th Aug we will have 4000 chickens in by then


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: forum poster on August 09, 2016, 02:10:39 PM
What a nightmare mess this has become, local residents relying on due process which has then let them down and is greeted with a two fingered salute and carry on regardless by the Chicken Man. Surely an enforcement notice must be served on this odious individual to close this illegal enterprise down? Or will it drag through courts for years like Shurlock Row green belt encroachment with much had wringing and tutting but never reaching the correct outcome. If I lived there I would be  blockading the road but then probably be in trouble for doing something illegal...go figure.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Thomas Lee on August 17, 2016, 04:40:00 PM

And this from Mr Thomas Lee .... the Moderator, at 10:25 pm on 27th July.

Quote
  And I do not think Driver has won yet.

Good call, Mr Lee !!

PS - This is sad and contemptible news .... the Chicken Man has won the day to the detriment of all local residents.


Mr Driver is proving to be a difficult customer. Most reasonable people would have folded long before now. I do believe he can be defeated, but he's showing that it's not going to be quick. In the meantime, we just have to keep the pressure on. Unfortunately, he, like many developers, have planning law on their side.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on August 17, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
So residents quality of life have to be squashed because of this person. This should have been stopped at the beginning, he was refused permission and he is breaking the law, I absolutely despair at the way this is going, he will put in a claim and it will go on and on and on and the residents that live on top of this field have to suffer


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Thomas Lee on August 18, 2016, 12:36:03 PM
So residents quality of life have to be squashed because of this person. This should have been stopped at the beginning, he was refused permission and he is breaking the law, I absolutely despair at the way this is going, he will put in a claim and it will go on and on and on and the residents that live on top of this field have to suffer

I totally agree with the sentiments here. Yes, he probably should have been stopped, but he wasn't. Unfortunately, the planning legislation (which clearly he is well versed in) allows him to get away with this. Ultimately, he will be forced to get rid of the chickens, or so I believe. But between then and now, yes, your quality of life may well be squashed.

I don't know if you were at the Parish council meeting where this was discussed, but Mr Saunders gave a most excellent precis of the law and how Mr Driver can (and probably will) use it to his favour.

I think the only thing the rest of the community can do is to continue to push this issue at both the local and borough level. Civil action I suppose could be helpful - blocking access to the field, etc. The problem with that is, he can call the police to remove you. If,  one was foolish enough to become more violent, that person would almost certainly end up in a cell, whilst Driver will carry on.

Not nice.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: James Hatch on August 18, 2016, 11:44:15 PM
Am I right that he fenced off the footpath? If he has, you have every right to have him  re-instate it.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: Thomas Lee on August 21, 2016, 09:34:19 AM
Reclaiming the footpath should be OK, but I Am Not A Lawyer. I can only imagine that Driver would call out the constabulary should you attempt this (even if it is within your rights). Whilst the emotional response to lash out at Driver may seem like the only way forward, I would hate to see Driver win more. I know it is sub-optimal, but sadly, successive governments have allowed changes to this country's planning legislation that simply allow Driver to do what he is doing. We HAVE to let the legal process run its course - despite our views. Sadly, in this country, developers seem to have more rights than the residents of the area being spoiled.


Title: Re: Chicken Field
Post by: monty on August 21, 2016, 10:16:46 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens - if anything - on 25th August when the enforcement notice comes into force.