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General Category => General Cookham Discussions => Topic started by: simonjamesturner on July 25, 2017, 10:46:34 AM

Title: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: simonjamesturner on July 25, 2017, 10:46:34 AM
And so the long term plan to incorporate Cookham into Maidenhead (a la Cox Green) begins.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on July 25, 2017, 12:32:44 PM

Oh here we go AGAIN - are we surprised ?????????????????

Which BARNS??

Those up by the PIG TRACK  / Bridle Way 19 that locals did not support riders to keep as a dirt track ....... a surface (also paid for by tax payers money) that can be used as a road... NOT even the Cookham society helped support keeping this track as DIRT..( painted by SIR Stanley Spencer). Small narrow minded people.

Or is it the barns where the Bridle Shop is.. / or is it the Barns where Equestrian World is.... which buildings / barns.. there are so many owned that 'surprise , surprise' can be converted.

WHY are some barns converted to shops... and then new barns built elsewhere to accommodate the agricultural use? Land banking?????

I'm disappointed - lets stand back and see what these Cllrs are going to do about it?

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on July 25, 2017, 12:33:51 PM
Wasn't planning permission to convert what they call the 'Pump House' (small metal building) in Kennel Lane into a house  recently approved?

Kennel lane was a narrow foot path.. soon to be a road?

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: Ian64 on July 25, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
RBWM refused the Kennel Lane application but it was approved on appeal by the Planning Inspectorate.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: monty on July 25, 2017, 08:44:38 PM
Residents opinions count for nothing now I think it is so sad the way things are going. - money

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: simonjamesturner on July 25, 2017, 08:54:49 PM
As Iíve said on previous occasions on this board, whilst we residents worry about infill developments, like the pony field, the real battle will be trying to keep the green belt between Cookham and Maidenhead undeveloped. The Mount Farm application is right in the middle of this belt and can only lead to more applications in the future. Interestingly our local estate agents, Pike, Smith & Kemp appear to be acting as agents for Mr Copas on this application, at least according to the planning appeal.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: monty on July 25, 2017, 09:15:24 PM
We need to keep fighting these developers who trying to destroy our village and surroundings. Cookham cannot support any more houses etc the surgery and schools are stretched,, the parking in the village is horrendous and to have any extra people cars etc is not an option. Somebody please sit up and speak out and stop this overkill of our village. Some people may say I am over reacting but this is my home and I hate to see what is happening to it

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: Watchman on July 25, 2017, 11:08:01 PM
The only way forward is to vote all these councillors out of office and start completely afresh.
Preferably have a hung council chamber where there is no one majority party.

So roll on the next council elections where the sincere hope is that voters remember the mess these particular councillors
have effectively created, encouraged and manifested by their unencumbered and unopposed actions, which in the vast
majority of cases, especially selective housing policy, has been against the will of the people who voted them in and
whom they now falsely claim to represent.  What it boils down to is that it is now all a SHAM.

And it is, when all is said and done, all about money.

It also begs the question :
Why are long-serving Conservative councillors abandoning their party (led by Dudley) and crossing the floor to sit as Independents?
Something in York Road must surely be rotten.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: simonjamesturner on July 26, 2017, 10:40:42 AM
There is also an application to convert barns and sheds to offices on the same site at Lower Mount Farm.

Whilst I wouldn't want to suggest that this is the situation at Lower Mount Farm, coming from a west country farming family myself, let me tell you how it's done in Devon.

1. Build barn
2. Convert barn to industrial use
3. Convert industrial unit to shop or offices
4. Open a business in the premises that you know will fail
5. Wait 3-5 years
6. Convert to a high end residential use (single large house)
7. Claim that the village boundary has now been extended
8. Infill the area between the converted 'barn' with cheap low quality housing
9. Quickly move self and family to another area


Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on July 26, 2017, 11:32:40 AM
What is it with this person wanting to erode every corner section of Cookham?

The planners need a kick up the back side and wake up to planning applications for Agricultural Barns and anticipate the 'ear-marking' of these buildings for the future.

Its like having your own pension pot maturing.

Interesting about the estate agents, sort of explains when you look at 'Right-Move' on line for Cookham, properties for Maidenhead pop up also...  :/

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: chiko7831. on July 30, 2017, 07:49:04 PM
Its on the agenda to be discussed at the Cookham Parish Council meeting 1 August, come along and your say.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: simonjamesturner on July 31, 2017, 07:48:37 AM
A good idea, but ultimately it wonít matter. The Parish council will reject the application as will the Maidenhead council. But it will be granted on appeal anyway. The persons making the application will have allowed for all this to occur in their planning timeline.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: Watchman on July 31, 2017, 09:48:20 AM
So Copas does it again!
Bravo the gentleman farmer who cares so very much about the Green Belt....

It's not WHAT you know in this life ... it's WHO you know.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: Paris on July 31, 2017, 01:08:09 PM
Very true watchman. I thought that about the Canon Court/bridleway 19 fiasco and Woodlands as well.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: localmum on July 31, 2017, 04:29:10 PM
And right next to the proposed spot for 250 houses is the land where earthworks have been going on to level the land for 'sports pitches' for the council to have use of.  If those ever get used for sports I'll be amazed, but on the off chance they do I still give it five years before the application goes in to build houses there.

This land is next to the land behind Whyteladys lane where he keeps being rejected for house building, and that joins up with the kennel lane development at the far end.  This will all be housing soon enough.

And who knows what is going on in that hidden area behind equine world.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on August 01, 2017, 12:55:22 PM
Seriously - comments were made about the 'pitches' application at the time. What a stupid place to build football pitches in the first instance, away from residential properties, not thinking of highway safety - kids crossing that busy road - should they of been made available for kids to use them.

And its the same people that closed Cannon Court Farm Stables down, as a 'Non Viable' business (Like Woodlands Farm), then talk of another stable yard to be opened?

How long before this yard gets closed down, and the stables converted into housing?

When are these Cllrs going to go to 'Spec Savers' and open their eyes to what Cookham Residents can already see?? You don't have to be psychic to see what's happening to Cookham!

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: Paris on August 01, 2017, 01:14:42 PM
Nice post Clipper.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on August 08, 2017, 06:21:57 PM
I see today that the application at 'Lower Mount Farm' has been refused, which is quite rightly so!

How can a land owner and Cllrs close two pre established equestrian facilities, to then have the cheek / or consider another equestrian facility to be created? Its like closing the stable door, after the horse has bolted!

I agree with the Cookham Society's comments, that should the application been approved the pre existing Chicken Sheds should be converted to house horses, rather than allowing any new buildings to be erected - minimising further development in the green belt.

As to the applicants list of support, it was mainly those that had lost the 'housing and grazing' from the previous RBWM Planners and Cllrs votes to shut down the previous sites. I find it funny that the same arguments to 'save' the previous sites, are now being used in support for a new site - its like the 'oki-coki' left foot in.. right foot out... in, out, in out and shake it all about ; )

As a last thought, in regards to the loss of these previous livery yards, the 'new' borough local plan urgently needs a policy to prevent future loss of any remaining equestrian facilities! 

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on September 26, 2017, 12:32:05 PM
Just seen on Face Book that a 'Doggy Day Care' is going to be opened .... talk about... slowly , slowly.....

Persistent in developing ....

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: Paris on September 27, 2017, 10:40:45 AM
There's plenty of people and companies offering doggy day care facilities.  Just hang around any of the local NT car parks for long enough and you'll be able to find them if you can't be bothered to google search.  Yes, it may be a viable business, but there's hardly an excruciating need for any more!  Whereas equestrian pursuits are being squeezed to the point of almost extinction in the Cookhams.  OK, some of you may moan about the odd bit of poop on the roads or having to slow  down a bit in your car from time to time; but where will you take your kids to see the 'nice ponies' once all the land has been built on? Come to think of it where will you go to have a lovely view of fields, hedgerows, woodlands, and wildlife once Cookham and its farmland and waterways have been urbanised and sanitised beyond all recognition?  

Truly there are some double standards at work here - come on Cllrs get it sorted, Cookham will be ruined by petty middle management go with the on trend flow urbanites and the predatory property developers who want to take all the money they can from them while the Crossrail potato is still hot.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on September 28, 2017, 01:02:33 PM
Lets be honest - Cookham is being totally eroded at every opportunity.

These Cllrs need to support the remaining Farms and Livery yards left standing, as like it or not, horse riding is part of village life. Cllrs need to apply common sense to those people that are obviously eroding the green belt with an ultimate goal for future 'land banking' for housing!

Cookham is supposed to be a village, but there are some that are intent on urbanising it and linking it to Maidenhead. Look at Cookham Dean, its become a RAT Run, and those lovely farm houses being urbanised to look like a fixture from the 'Only way is Essex' programme.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on October 12, 2017, 02:43:07 PM
Has anyone seen the planning application for this Doggy Day Care being built at Lower Mount Farm?... more out buildings.... if they build them big enough, could be converted into 'Single Story Dwellings' in the near future... after all... enough had core gone down for 'footings' of a substantial building.... !

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on November 13, 2017, 12:27:57 PM
Where is the Planning Application for this 'Doggy Day Care'?

I see the Banner advertising the establishment was well placed out flapping in the wind blocking visual sight for traffic !

I see the fence has gone up all around (Nice Urbanisation going on there !) and some sort of Terrapin Hut strategically placed around the corner....

Slowly , Slowly ear marked for houses... closing Cookham with Maidenhead.

Explains why long lane had the hedge row scrubbed back to 'widen' visual impact .. so not a traffic concern in the future...

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on November 16, 2017, 12:36:33 PM
Well someone read my thread - as that stupid banner has gone.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: candy on January 09, 2018, 01:28:39 PM
Does anyone have an update on the dog business?

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: candy on March 09, 2018, 11:31:38 AM
Planning application for the dog business on greenbelt land. Closing date is 2 weeks today.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: Paris on March 09, 2018, 06:02:40 PM
What's with all this going ahead before permission has been granted? Are the doggy people related to a certain chicken farmer who thought he could beat the system?

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: monty on March 09, 2018, 08:48:31 PM
What is it with these people that they want to ruin Cookham as a village I despair, why can't they leave things as they are, Cookham is a beautiful place and they are trying to destroy it.

Title: Re: Lower Mount Farm
Post by: CLIPPER on March 12, 2018, 12:56:04 PM
A good thing from all this is - perhaps those with dogs in the nearby area, who may of used this facility initially , may now actually think twice in doing so !