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James Hatch
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2019, 05:49:50 AM »

I have managed to claim back from the lost postings, this painting of Sir Stanley Spencer of the "The Mount." bridal path, which of late has been a very hot topic of conversation:

https://youtu.be/Rj7VWSVvn14

So turn up your sound
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Paris
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2019, 09:48:02 AM »

If no friendly php programmer comes forward, how much would it cost to have the discussion board reloaded from the server?

From what little I remember of IT people doing such things at work, it actually took very little effort, just machine time while things uploaded.
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CLIPPER
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2019, 07:11:57 AM »

Was nice to see the 'Sir Stanley Spencer Bridle Path' also known as the Pig Track.. which thanks to our recent Cllrs was allowed to be turned into a road with a car park at the top and bins... so anyone thinking they will see a similar view will be disappointed. It was good to see the you tube clip and the comment about Windsor Castle... however no mention of the Red Metal Barn in the right hand corner - since all be redeveloped  into a mini commune.

I'm really disappointed that this Cookham Discussion Board has lost all the history, where residents spent a lot of time campaigning , highlighting relevant issues about what was happening in Cookham - the positives and negatives, and as we are heading out to vote this Thursday.... if anyone wanted to know which Cllrs do what / did what to Cookham - this site would of been a really useful 'one stop shop'.

The Cookham Face Book Page is not as good, and I'm tired of seeing the Cllrs on film 'blagging'... as no one tends to voice opinions via FB as its so public. At least with this site, we had some security we could log in under a name and password, and feel free to voice opinions.

I still hope the Cookham Discussion Webmaster can back up all history... as otherwise what is the point of this board without able to see previous issues /resolutions and threads.  Embarrassed
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Watchman
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2019, 10:28:36 AM »

Re CLIPPERS comments above....

I must admit to having grave reservations of the "accidental " erasure of all issues, debates, advice and discussions on the old COOKHAM DISCUSSONS BOARD, especially those relating to the absurd behaviour of the dictatorial majority of Conservative Councillors
on the RBWM,  not least of whom their visionary leader, one Simon Dudley.

Especially as this erasure was achieved just two weeks or so before the Council elections - and was executed by an illustrious "Cookham Webmaster" -
a contradiction in terms, when given the circumstances - a person looking after the Website totally expunges the website he looks after!

As CLIPPER pointed out - the Discussion Board of old would have been a perfect one-stop reference for all things pertaining to both
Cookham and the Borough, as a whole.

Seems a shame that, nearly two weeks down the road, all we've had is excuses as to the continued absence of the old Board.

With no solution on the horizon .... unless of course said solution mysteriously appears AFTER the Local Elections have been carried out!

Oh, the irony!

Listen, I know that the Cookham Discussion Board is run by volunteers ... and to that end I'm sure we are all grateful, However could
someone please answer the following simple questions :  

Why was the webmaster tinkering around with the Board anyway?  
I don't buy the "it needs a new look to it" excuse!
If it wasn't broke, why try and fix it?
And now it is broke, how come it seemingly cannot be fixed?

Something smells rather fishy here ... allay all our fears please Webmasters and get the old Board up and running pronto!


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Kate
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2019, 02:53:06 PM »

Dear Watchman

As far as conspiracy theories go, that's a real cracker! You rightly surmise that the moderators on this discussion board are all volunteers. Some individuals are so mightily sick of these nasty comments that they may well give up and go elsewhere, thus you will have compounded your own theory.

Please do try and appreciate that mistakes sometimes do happen. The very nature of maintaining a live website is that sometimes it needs 'tinkering with' and if only we could find someone with the appropriate 'tinkering' skills we might be able to reinstate what has gone before. Perhaps you might help by trying to find a volunteer with php experience who would be willing to give up their time, as we do.

All the best
Kate
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Watchman
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2019, 04:31:42 PM »

Dear Kate,

That was one helluva whopper of a "tinkering".
Wow!  Shocked
Wiping the entire Discussion Board in one fell swoop and done so before checking the alternatives or the consequences?
Would you not agree?

Perhaps my conspiracy theory is a "real cracker" in your esteemed opinion however sick it is not.
That is, quite wrongly, your summation.
These are NOT nasty comments - just one contributor's subjective criticism.
Sadly, if such criticism cannot be handled, then what's the point?
Deleting the messages at will, as is the case with some webmasters ?
Be honest - this was a cock-up of mammoth proportion, the timing of which was convenient with the solution seemingly non-existent!
Furthermore, I suspect I echo a few people's quiet thoughts on this matter in putting my "real cracker" conspiracy theory to paper.

And do also remember that, whilst I repeat that I appreciate the work all the volunteers do, the disappearance of the several good
citizens who often use the Cookham Discussions Board would also further serve to compound my theory.
ie., No Discussion Board.
Do remember the old maxim - it takes two hands to clap!

However if I have offended, I apologise.
But I still stand by my theory - whether a "real cracker" or not!
I'm afraid I do not know of anyone with php experience, however, why not adopt Paris's suggestion below....
I'm sure a small contribution from all the Boards readers would go a long way towards solving the problem.

All the best,

Watchman



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Kate
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2019, 05:17:58 PM »

To all users

What's the general feeling? Do you want the discussion board to continue? In my view it would save a lot of effort and aggro just to take the whole thing down and end the problem, but it's you as users whose input is important. It would seem a shame for it to go after all this time but it's not my decision, I'm interested in what the wider users think. I'm not sure asking for donations to fund a fix is wholly appropriate as not everyone on this board lives up in the Dean / has surplus income.

Best
Kate
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Paris
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2019, 05:28:19 PM »

Kate, I think if you look at this thread and the previous one where the alleged mistake was announced, you will see that users do want the old discussions back.

Like watchman and clipper, I too have my doubts about the timing of this issue; and surely you must admit that for a webmaster to not be sure of the back up/restoration procedure for a site they look after is a bit odd.  The most basic thing I believe most people are taught is not to delete without a back up or restoration method.  While your post asking whether we want everything back when users have already asked could just be another stalling tactic - if so, not a very clever one and rather obvious!

We will all have to see what happens tomorrow and in the days after the elections I suppose . . .

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parasol
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2019, 08:18:51 PM »

Hi Kate,

I used to view the forums as a useful source of information for what is going on in the Cookhams.  Recently they seem to have become a platform for people who want to hold forth on their own particular hobby horse, whether it is anti-social cyclists, the lack of stabling or conspiracy theories around the motives of land owners or local councillors.  This does not interest me so with some sadness my verdict is that I would not be sad to lose the discussion forums in their current format.

As someone who works in IT I can understand the views of people who say that mistakes like the recent deletion should not happen, but overriding that I appreciate that the site is run by volunteers who give up their free time to make Cookham.com available and I completely accept that in that environment mistakes do happen.  If users want more reliability then they need to be prepared to contribute.

Good luck with whatever direction the forums take.
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Kate
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2019, 08:47:06 AM »

Thanks Paris and parasol for your input.

Paris I wasn't asking if people wanted the previous posts reinstated - the more vocal minority have already made their thoughts very clear - I was asking if the discussion board should continue at all or simply be removed in its entirety which would solve your problem (you could use another forum) and would be of no loss to those like parasol who seem to have lost interest in the nature and topic of recent posts.

Personally I think it would be a shame if the board disappeared altogether, but I absolutely empathise with those who are fed up of the finger-pointing. I give up my time despite these days living outside of RBWM so I would have little interest in the outcome of your local elections. The one person I feel most badly about is James Hatch, and I would love for all of his history posts to be reinstated where they could be easily accessed by local residents.

Best
Kate
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Paris
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2019, 09:50:30 AM »

Well that's just about killed the board then, for me at any rate.  If people don't like the way it's going, then scrap it.  Although, being cynical and suspicious as I am I still believe there is more too this than meets the eye.  I shall just, as so rudely suggested, find another forum on which to air my opinions.  Maybe it won't be so full of self congratulatory press releases from rbwm. Which quite honestly are enough to get anyone's back up. 

As a parting shot I'd like to say thanks webmaster for carrying on in your spare time and to everyone who has posted and made the board so great over the years.  Shame if it does go, but hey, Cookham isn't run for the likes of me anymore, Cookham born and bred, but by those who want to mold it to their way of being, forgetting what attracted them here in the first place.

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Watchman
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2019, 10:04:21 AM »

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but I absolutely empathise with those who are fed up of the finger-pointing.

I find it both extraordinary and frankly disappointing that you classify genuine concerns raised on this forum about the disintegration of the infrastructure of the Cookhams as "finger pointing".

Everything is NOT all sweetness and roses in this Parish Kate, and one of the purposes of a forum (whether you like it or not) is to point things out as subjective criticism, not to just sit by and watch as farmers, developers, building companies and the Council set about altering the beauty of the Cookhams just because they can.

The infamouus Village Plan ...
The Poundfield development ...
The small field by the Cookham Rise Infants School ...
The changing of a bridle way into a tarmacadamed path
The consent given by the RBWM to the conversion of a single standing pump-house in the middle of a field into a dwelling place
The chicken farm fiasco
The double yellow lines that appeared along Sutton Road ...
The erection of houses in flood plains ...
The "election" banners expounding the "achievements" of the present council members ...
The Woodlands Farm buildings fiasco ...

The list is endless.

And just because forummers have a grievance and then complain about their genuine concerns you label them as "finger pointers" ?

I've been around for a good few years ...but now I've heard it all !



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Bathsheba
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2019, 11:07:17 AM »

I'm sure there's no conspiracy, just a mistake during refactoring, and we were all told that was happening.

So long as the data can be archived in some way, I'd be happy to restore it myself as a retirement project in 5 years time (I'd need to get acquainted with php). The idea that's already been mooted of restoring it to an "archive" section is, in my opinion, a good one.

But in the meantime, could a "programmer wanted" advertisement be placed on Cookham.com to see if anyone would come forward?
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Kate
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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2019, 12:18:20 PM »

My use of the term 'finger-pointing' was in relation to unfounded accusations directed at those who are trying to provide this web facility for all participants. In that context I don't think it was unreasonable. To reiterate, I am not in a position to have a view on your local politics, although I can absolutely see that some of you are very unhappy indeed.

Best
Kate
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CLIPPER
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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2019, 12:50:33 PM »

In response to the above, perhaps then the wrong people took over running the Cookham Web Page?. I say this, as the 'history' is what makes this discussion board so useful to all. Its not just a place to give a personal view - but as safe environment to voice an opinion.

The previous historical discussions have been of more value than say the Maidenhead Advertiser  - who even in the past have used this site to get ideas for stories to run.

Also RBWM used it to 'position' themselves on particular topics as well, to gain a consensus to how the 'Cookhams' felt on particular topics. Lets not forget some topics had not been closed but gone quiet.. you will still get that one 'farmer/developer' wanting to build all over Cookham!

It would be really useful to have all the history backed up, as who knows, one day the support of the residents that have campaigned for various issues, may be of use to yourselves in the future.

Why invent the wheel so to speak ?





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